Unlocking Success: The Secrets They Didn't Teach You
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 10 Steps A Hit podcast. It's your girl, Deshaun Snow.
Skido Ortiz:And your boy, Skido's in the building.
DeShawn Snow:-What up, doe?
Skido Ortiz:-I'm ready, man. Ten Steps Ahead. I've been talking about this all week.
DeShawn Snow:I know. I know. You have a busy weekend. We both had busy weekends. Let's talk about it.
Skido Ortiz:Well, you know what? Ladies first. See, my mama taught me right. But I heard you was going off in South Carolina.
DeShawn Snow:Had an amazing weekend.
Skido Ortiz:We did. Man, we gotta talk about that a little bit.
DeShawn Snow:I am gracing the cover, the spring issue of Motivate Magazine, Heart of a Woman. And so Celeste Crocker's founder and CEO, and she had her launch event in South Carolina, Greensburg, South Greensville, South Carolina. So my, one of my sisters came with me up there and we had a great time. It was a great event, top notch. They honored me and then they unveiled my cover.
DeShawn Snow:So it was pretty So good.
Skido Ortiz:They're like a movie star. Like, it looked like a book. You know what I'm saying? Like, we was I was actually seeing it when we was in LA. And I was like, Yo, look at Dee.
Skido Ortiz:She looking like a movie star. Everybody was like, Well, you know, I'll be showing you out. Because, you know, I'm out there talking about 10 steps ahead. They were like, Yo, that's a dope concept. And they were like, Ski, you always thinking 10 steps ahead.
Skido Ortiz:I said, and DeShawn's the same way. So it was when we got together, we're always trying to be perfectionists. And sometimes being perfectionists, people ain't ready for that, and it could be But we're smoothing it out.
DeShawn Snow:-Yes. -We're going We're being patient. We're being in the moment, and we're accepting things. Because only God's perfect, right? -Absolutely.
DeShawn Snow:Try We think we're in control, but we're never really in control.
Skido Ortiz:-No, we're not in control, but
DeShawn Snow:-It's just an illusion.
Skido Ortiz:-So, after that, what happened?
DeShawn Snow:So, got the pictures? Well, the pictures, everything We did the photoshoot a while back. -And the issue doesn't drop to May, so I can't release those photos yet. But, it was a great time. I had a chance to connect with the people.
DeShawn Snow:A lot of people was inspired by my story. I shared a little bit. And it felt so good. You know, I remember feeling like I wanted to just battle up that moment, you know, that joy. And I just, I felt like I was on a high and I just wanted to stay on that high.
DeShawn Snow:So I got back, I was like, Let me start working on my goals
Skido Ortiz:and But when I was in LA, I was like, you remember Deshaun's or the first original Atlanta Housewives? They're like, yeah. But when they started seeing the clip of the previous show just showing them, they were like, yo, she looks amazing. But it looks like and they see your workout. I'm showing them.
Skido Ortiz:I'm like, yo, she's on some next level things. I mean, I think the show was good because that was good for them. That moment, But I think the new things you're about to be doing, I know I just feel blessed I'm included in this show, but you just look like you're on a different vibe, a brighter light. I see it. And women need to be seeing this because it's motivating.
DeShawn Snow:Yeah, definitely. The inside the outside is finally matching the work that I did on the inside, right? So, you know, I'm trying I'm getting strong physically as I'm getting strong mentally. It all goes. It's like being stronger, healthier, happier.
DeShawn Snow:And so that's the vibe I'm wearing.
Skido Ortiz:I love it. I'm hype. I get excited when people get, you know, winning and doing something. Be like, Ski,
Skido Ortiz:I like, Yo, I just love seeing people win. And people don't believe that till I'm when they're working with me and they're around me. Because they would people assume things because they don't know until they know you. Because they'd like, Yo, Ski, you're kind of rough around it. We don't know how you're gonna and then when they get around me, they're like, you're the most positive person.
Skido Ortiz:And now we see why you're always by yourself. Because when you're so positive, you just can't be around everybody. -Because they can't move like you.
DeShawn Snow:-Right.
Skido Ortiz:-Mm But
DeShawn Snow:And then, you know, we were talking because you gotta protect your ear gate, your eye gate, you know, you can't have anything negative. At least for me, you know what I'm saying? And I think for you too, otherwise I won't be able to cope, you know what mean? So I have to, you know, keep the positivity around me.
Skido Ortiz:You got to. And you Dee, remember we talked about before about being in a bubble? You know what And when you're coming bad habits are are meant to be broken.
DeShawn Snow:Yes.
Skido Ortiz:And no and and as you growing in success, you gotta you gotta start eliminating all these bad habits because that's gonna motivate you to go to the next level.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:And people, you can't be stuck in your ways. Right. That's another scene, you know, a little stuck in your way. We'll talk about that later. But I seen you, like, you know, we actually accountable for both what we talk about.
Skido Ortiz:But I trust our friendship to go, Dee, what you think? Because, you know, we'd be out of pocket, but we don't like to be checked. Right. Growing is being checked.
DeShawn Snow:Being checked.
Skido Ortiz:Without being sensitive. But on that note, we was 10 steps ahead.
DeShawn Snow:-Ten steps ahead. So tell me about LA. You were in LA this weekend working on some deals, whatever. I'll get into detail, but tell
Skido Ortiz:me -I can tell
DeShawn Snow:you a little something
Skido Ortiz:something. So one of our clients, Ray Ray, who plays for the Atlanta Falcons, he's on some next level stuff.
DeShawn Snow:Acting.
Skido Ortiz:Acting. I got him in a movie, me and my team. Michelle Stokes was out there. Chico Brown is out there. You know, I always say team.
Skido Ortiz:There's no never one person. You know? Right. I always credit my team. Absolutely.
Skido Ortiz:But he came to me, and he he he says, I need to go to the next level. And not citing the things he's doing. He's he's a very visional person. He has a visionary that's crazy. And I was able to get him what he needed.
Skido Ortiz:But these are things we're having fun with. So we went out there this weekend. And one of these deals, we had Moneybags.
DeShawn Snow:Oh, that's about it.
Skido Ortiz:He had a rapper do Moneybags, who's a
DeShawn Snow:I think it's Moneybags Yo.
Skido Ortiz:Moneybags Yo. I I forgot to Yo. Sorry about that. But, he's actually a friend of Ray's. Okay.
Skido Ortiz:And all the things that we have that's powerful and blowing up, now Ray has it. So instead of him being just a football player, I'm just teaching everybody how to be So my power is now his power. His power is now my power. Your power is not People don't understand the power of having somebody next you next to you. It's they say, Scary, I don't see how you do it.
Skido Ortiz:I said, well, think about this. Sorry. Think about this. If I know if I have all these relationships in the industry and you're close to me, now you have all these relationships. So now we gotta say, how are we gonna make money?
Skido Ortiz:I got all the doors right here. Come to me, let's put something together. So his thing was he wanted to share his power with his relationship with Moneybag Yo. Okay. So, you know, he came out there.
Skido Ortiz:He flew out there. He was on his business. He flew out there, you know, in a bit I know, to me, maybe he'll say it and have him on the show. To me, it was like, you never know what you're getting into. And in LA, you don't ever know what you're driving anyway.
Skido Ortiz:Right. So where we had to go was in the middle of the desert, but it was big business and it was a powerful corporation out there.
DeShawn Snow:Okay.
Skido Ortiz:But you don't know till you get
DeShawn Snow:there. Right.
Skido Ortiz:And it was an hour and forty minutes out of LA. Wow. But the corporation's out there.
DeShawn Snow:Okay.
Skido Ortiz:And he got in that truck. And then we got the truck. When he got there, I know he's like, well, but when he got there, you could see everything just calm. Because first of all, LA, you don't know if you're driving. Yo, is it a setup?
Skido Ortiz:Because I was driving. I said, Yo, dude, if I was in his van, I'd be thinking, Yo, what's up, man? So I know he was happy to reach that destination. But he got out with Ray and Paul, and Ray was excited. He's like that.
Skido Ortiz:He was excited for Moneybag Yo. And he was able to go in there, and the enterprise was right there. Money outside of what you're doing is what I'm bringing to the table. So I said, for Ray to have that vision, he wanted to share the power with everybody So this is just a domino effect that's about to be going on. I was proud of that.
Skido Ortiz:And it was it was it was something else. And then, of course, the date with me, it's like a movie. So when I'm in a movie, that was Moneybag Yo one time. The second, I said, well, now we're going to go see Tiffany Haddish. So we we
DeShawn Snow:She was on Stan.
Kay Davis:She was
Skido Ortiz:on Stan. She was doing at the Laugh Factory, but we have personal relationships with her. And she's actually one of the producers on the movie.
Kay Davis:Mhmm.
Skido Ortiz:So from that, we finished with Moneybag Yo. We then had a a ball. Then that night, we just went to meet with her. All the stars was in there. It's just like when we go somewhere, it's just one of those days where God just lines everything up, and we was all cracking up.
Skido Ortiz:And after the show, Ray was got Ray didn't she didn't know that Ray was part of the movie.
DeShawn Snow:Okay.
Skido Ortiz:She's one of the producers. Mhmm. So at the end of the show, we was able to get her. They meet upstairs. And then I had my other boy, Mark, who designed that shoe.
Skido Ortiz:I'm like a chess player. So everybody's getting they're like, Yo, this is hot and raised me. Everybody, he's gonna be in the movie. Because being in the movie is having relationship with other actors and professionals. Tiffany did her thing.
Skido Ortiz:You know what I'm saying? We're proud of her. She's very close to the circle. So everybody was just hanging out. You'll see the pictures and all that
DeShawn Snow:in there. Yes, I do.
Skido Ortiz:So that's the On the Sidelines Mosquito episode, matched with 10 Steps Ahead. So I'm tied to all of this. But, man, there's so much more business we're doing with celebrities that's gonna be crazy. But that was a successful weekend.
DeShawn Snow:Awesome.
Skido Ortiz:And I gotta go back Sunday. I gotta turn, you know. Oh, Max just got here.
DeShawn Snow:You're going. You're going.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah. I'm going. That's what happened. So I had a great but I gotta share something. So we're on the high.
Skido Ortiz:We're leaving Tiffany and and all the great comics, and we're sitting there. Everybody's talking business, having a good time, just outside the business. You know when you're going into the plane, when you feel like, okay, I'm going home to kill this show? Man, before I get to the airport, you know, the enemy was Man, my man calls me from this episode I'm not gonna say, but he calls me Being in the industry, I know a lot of people. I'm just God just allowed me to have a lot of powerful friends.
Skido Ortiz:But, I mean, I'm not taking credit. And I get a call when some It was a misunderstanding about something. Instead of Evolving you? Evolving Well, no. Well, it was me, the people around me, my team.
Skido Ortiz:And what you're not gonna do is talk about my team.
DeShawn Snow:Right. Right.
Skido Ortiz:What you're not gonna do is discredit anybody on my team.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:That's just like somebody saying something about you. Right. I go hard for anybody that's with me. I don't play that. Man, I went off in the airport.
Skido Ortiz:I was so hot, but
DeShawn Snow:cameraman -So it kinda cost you out of
Skido Ortiz:process you out of the -Tiffany Haddish, you know, you're leaving. That morning, me and Dre, you know, our camera guy, he he's like he's he's traveling, doing all the shots. And I went the hell off in that airport. I forgot. You took the peace and the happiness.
Skido Ortiz:In a split second, I get protective. Right. And I went off. And was like, after a while, it was so set up that God allowed me to get on a plane to calm down.
Kay Davis:Six hours.
Skido Ortiz:If I had a parachute, I would've jumped off that damn plane and went off. I was so mad for five hours. By the time I got home, God was just praying and dealing with me. He said, Listen, every success is always something.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:You gotta know when the enemy's coming. And every time something's good happening, something follows with something negative or bad, everybody ain't happy for you.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:And that made me calm. And by the time I got on that Zoom and straightened all that, by the morning I woke up, my same people that called me, it reversed.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:Like, yo, they called us back. Who are these people? Do they know who you are? And it's like, God just allowed that to say, I got your back.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:Sometimes you just gotta breathe and just don't get caught up in all that craziness and just let God do the -And that worked out. -So now I'm ready for 10 steps ahead. Sorry.
DeShawn Snow:-That's okay. Now what about so, like, authenticity, right? -Mm -So you wanna be true to who you are, but you're not gonna let somebody play you. Because it sound like you got a little bit out of character.
Skido Ortiz:Did. I lost it. People was moving away from me at the airport, and Dre, he got it on film. He was like, yoke. That's
DeShawn Snow:the New -The New York came out
Skido Ortiz:It ain't even the New York. It's that People don't understand. It ain't a New York thing. It's a pain and suffering thing. It's a anger thing.
DeShawn Snow:The
Skido Ortiz:things I don't wanna unleash, the things that people know me And I'm not fronting here. I know people know how I get down, I used to, back in my back. But that was from anger and pain. And, yo, who you talking to? Like, I was at everybody.
Skido Ortiz:You know what I'm saying? That was just me being trying to control a temper or anger or impulse. I'm a grown man now. As adults, we gotta learn how to control these things.
DeShawn Snow:But did you ever get help trying
Skido Ortiz:to No, God. I swear. No human being could help me.
DeShawn Snow:Not even a therapist?
Skido Ortiz:I went to one. Okay. Thirty minutes into She said, I want you to go deep. So thirty minutes into be talking, I didn't know how deep she wanted. She stopped me.
Skido Ortiz:She said, I gotta refer you. I said, oh, what? She's like, this is a little too deep. She got some She stopped me. But you know, I said, that's when I called my pastor.
DeShawn Snow:Okay.
Skido Ortiz:He said, Ski, what you got is spiritual warfare. Your battles can't be healed by a Somebody has to be able to share your pain to understand you. The only body that can understand you is God. So why don't you give it to him? So after that, I gave it to him.
Skido Ortiz:And little by little, it's been coming. I caged that animal, that thing that
DeShawn Snow:animal started But the animal, doesn't go Caging it doesn't make it go away, Right?
Skido Ortiz:No, it cages it.
DeShawn Snow:Okay.
Skido Ortiz:And then gotta just the the the everything A root is always in you. But you know when you have a root in you, when you Root is when it's being pulled. People don't wanna be pulled because it deals with certain pain or certain things that trigger you. Everybody don't know what You know, it's like, I don't wanna deal with that. So you push it in.
Skido Ortiz:But every time you push it in, you don't know it makes it worse.
DeShawn Snow:Right. That's what I'm saying. So when
Skido Ortiz:I started I tried to bury it. God said, no, we gotta pull it out
DeShawn Snow:of it.
Skido Ortiz:Yes. So like a root in the ground, when you're pulling it, it feels like it keeps going and going. That's what happened. So but, no, he started pulling it. Right.
Skido Ortiz:And I would and then when he pulled it, it broke me. So when I never cried, I started crying. Things started making me because people think crying in my world makes you weak. No. I didn't know how strong it makes you because you're actually, everything that comes out of you makes you stronger.
Skido Ortiz:Absolutely. So so me and God been going through that. And I'm still going through it.
DeShawn Snow:That's interesting.
Skido Ortiz:But after three hours of crying like a little baby, and I'm not built like that, It was me and him, dude. It's like daddy with your son. -Mm -And he was like, Yo, you wanna be healed or you wanna keep going through this pain?
Kay Davis:-That's right. -Same
DeShawn Snow:thing. You mask it. People, a lot of times, mask something, and then they don't really deal with it. And then it always That's why it's always on the surface. So the very little thing can make it trigger.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah. So that's it. And I don't want to deal with it I don't want to be mad. I don't want to angry. I don't want to punch you in your face.
Skido Ortiz:I don't want to Yo, get away. I don't play like that.
DeShawn Snow:So I don't want to talk to your vibe.
Skido Ortiz:I want to be all laughing and joking and people having fun around me. I just want pop. I can't do the negative. It just rubs me the wrong way now. You know what saying?
Skido Ortiz:So I walk out, and people gotta learn when to walk out the room. Don't stay in the midst of just chaos. Your
DeShawn Snow:life
Skido Ortiz:is better than that. -Mm -That's it.
DeShawn Snow:-Just excuse yourself.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah, just excuse yourself. You know, you know the things we
DeShawn Snow:Well, I'm glad you were able to calm down. Glad you had that timing of that flight so you could
Skido Ortiz:And rushed right to the show and woke up late, sorry.
DeShawn Snow:Oh, yes. Know you were saying he was late.
Skido Ortiz:And I was like, I woke up. I was like, yo, I was exhausted.
DeShawn Snow:Yeah.
Skido Ortiz:But I'm a be prepped more and more. But I'm just keeping it real with the audience. It just happens. We travel. We do things outside of this stuff.
Skido Ortiz:You know?
DeShawn Snow:-All right, absolutely. -That
Skido Ortiz:was cool. I'm happy to be here.
DeShawn Snow:Okay, okay. All right. So, we were talking about authenticity. You know, being true to who you are in all circumstances. Do you find that, especially being in the public arena, that it's a little hard to, There's not a lot of people being their authentic selves, right?
DeShawn Snow:Because they always feel like they gotta be on. I know with me, like, that was always a balance. I mean, not -I'm gonna
Skido Ortiz:strip it back to you. I mean, you coming out of your bubble. And you
DeShawn Snow:-I've been out my bubble.
Skido Ortiz:-No, no, -Let's just be clear. So you out or you're coming out little by little?
DeShawn Snow:-No, I've been out of the bubble shortly after the divorce.
Skido Ortiz:But you know the bubble we're talking about. Okay. -Not the bubble that you Bubble is how you handle things.
DeShawn Snow:-Right.
Skido Ortiz:-How you resolve things. -Right. -How you don't do the same things over and over again. -Okay, yeah. -How you don't be You know, if Not just saying that you're on hands.
Skido Ortiz:People think on hands in control if they always wanna narrate people's. You know, it's just how you approach things. -You know, you can't have the same conversation and the same argument over and over again. Something even if the person don't get it, you gotta get it. -Mm -Because when you get it, they get it.
Skido Ortiz:You understand? You know, it's like being the big brother in the room or the big sister in the room. There's always gonna be backlash, but people wanna grow. People ain't like us. When they come in there, I had to say, Yo, get over it.
Skido Ortiz:You good, because I'm built a certain way. But some people can't get over it. You know? So I had to adjust to them to be more sensitive. You understand?
Skido Ortiz:And I'm even doing that in business. Leading is leading. Right. -Not It can't be about our way. It's about adjusting how they are.
Skido Ortiz:-Yeah. -And that's a true boss. -You understand where you can see
DeShawn Snow:the
DeShawn Snow:room?
Skido Ortiz:Many are
DeShawn Snow:caught. Many are chosen.
Skido Ortiz:Exactly. But on your case, is that now all these things are happening.
DeShawn Snow:Yes.
Skido Ortiz:-Being a boss, your whole vision, and, you know, things are coming up. How's that going?
DeShawn Snow:I am trying to be intentional being my authentic self. -I mean, I've always, in the past Like, I will compare was always myself, but I would compare my current self to my former self, or either compare myself, my current self, to my potential. I always felt it was lacking. You know, didn't measure up. So the feelings of inadequacy, you know, caused me to lot missed a lot of opportunities and not really fully show up.
Skido Ortiz:But opportunities like what? Business opportunities.
DeShawn Snow:Yeah, because I would just you know, I don't know how to halfway do anything. If I'm a do it, I'm a do it all the way. And if I couldn't do it all the way, then I just wouldn't go. But the reality is people not even really caring like that. I'm in You're my head.
DeShawn Snow:I'm in my head, right? Yeah. So this year I am getting out of my head and I am trying to show up as my authentic self And I am going for what I want. And if it lands, it lands. If it don't, it don't.
DeShawn Snow:You know I'm saying? Because there's no failure. Success is just falling forward. It's never giving up. Just getting back up.
Skido Ortiz:But you know what? In this show, 10 Steps Ahead, is we're teaching people how to grow. We're teaching people how to survive.
DeShawn Snow:Or thrive.
Skido Ortiz:And thrive, be positive, build whatever you gotta do and don't believe don't listen to nobody else. Stay focused. And that's why this show meant so much when we sat down and we talked about it. If it wasn't nothing else, nobody can't get nothing out of it. I didn't wanna do it.
Skido Ortiz:You know what I'm saying? But we are sharing our life and our world. We
DeShawn Snow:really testimony.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah. We're giving you the real, the scenes. We're not holding nothing. We talk shit. We disagree.
DeShawn Snow:But
Skido Ortiz:not to hurt each other. It's to build each other. See, there's a difference with that. And I like the way you're growing. I was showing you off in LA.
Skido Ortiz:I was telling the whole team. I was like, yo, shit back. Because I'm sharing it because I know it helps with the show. And it shows, you was out there. I wasn't on no TV.
Skido Ortiz:I was out there in the streets. I was hustling business and don't hustle. No, I don't do that. You know what I'm saying? You know how people try
DeShawn Snow:do you never even really hustled.
Skido Ortiz:-I never did that now.
DeShawn Snow:-And that
Skido Ortiz:-But but I was just showing everybody the new things that we're working on. And that's good when you're into something, you're supposed to spread that love.
DeShawn Snow:-I'm not home anymore. Excitement is contagious.
Skido Ortiz:Man. And I'm still pumped, exhausted, jumping off the plane. As I was getting here, my spirit just start I start praying. That's what I do, you know?
DeShawn Snow:-Yes, of course.
Skido Ortiz:-Yeah, I gotta just get here and share everything. Can't wait to share the new things that are going on, so every episode's gonna be different. And everybody wants to get on this show. And already, and I'm saying, now we got two more episodes to do, but we're getting warmed up.
DeShawn Snow:Me and my schedule.
Skido Ortiz:Your schedule. No, I'm sticking to Deshaun's schedule. Let me tell you something.
DeShawn Snow:-So this is what's because we're two different people. -I'm very, like, in order and, you know, by the book. And you're very, like,
Skido Ortiz:What are you trying to work on?
DeShawn Snow:-Say it. -So I'm learning to, be fluid and flexible. Oh, let me say flexible. -Mm Right. You know what I'm saying?
DeShawn Snow:I mean, I have my way of doing things, but, you know, it's not gonna always go that way. Keep going. I'm just that's one thing. That's the thing.
Skido Ortiz:So if it when it what it so you're saying to them is you always want things to go your
Kay Davis:way.
DeShawn Snow:You wanna you always wanna strive for excellence.
Skido Ortiz:Okay.
DeShawn Snow:I don't know anything. I mean, I'm not saying I'm excellent all the time, but I'm definitely striving for it.
Skido Ortiz:Ain't nothing wrong with And,
DeShawn Snow:you know, everything has to be decent and in order.
Skido Ortiz:So being decent and in order, so you let's let's just be real with everybody. I know a lot of people out there like that. So you're a perfectionist, and you want things I'm perfectionist. Or you want something done the way you want it done.
DeShawn Snow:You know, you got it
Skido Ortiz:in your mind. I understand that. But shouldn't there be a little balance for that when you got people around you trying to when you wanna line everybody up, sometimes that shit could drive you crazy. I've seen people with anything out of line or moves a different way. Oh, they get into like a
DeShawn Snow:Yeah. What I will usually do is just retreat. I'll be like, okay, but never I'm off of
Skido Ortiz:that. Your exit thing when it don't go the way you want.
DeShawn Snow:Yeah. Because it's too much.
Skido Ortiz:I'll just go to the next No, I'm
DeShawn Snow:not saying that it's right.
Skido Ortiz:No, I'm not judging. Just want you to
DeShawn Snow:keep it going. No, it's not right. I'm just saying that's just
Skido Ortiz:So how we fix it?
DeShawn Snow:So I'm growing, I'm evolving.
Skido Ortiz:My whole
DeShawn Snow:And so I try to be open to receive the feedback and I tried to be more patient.
Skido Ortiz:Oh, God. You said that sounds so smooth. And then, like, she bite, like, just grinning. Because she she's a boss, first of all. So when she's let me tell you something.
Skido Ortiz:What I love about Deshaun is her she's driven, her greatness and perfectionist, but I understand you. See, that's the thing. I have a good understanding from I
DeShawn Snow:don't think I'm a perfectionist, though.
Skido Ortiz:You just said you're working
DeShawn Snow:on that.
Skido Ortiz:Okay. Know what I'm saying?
DeShawn Snow:Said I'm a perfectionist.
Skido Ortiz:No. You said you like things done a certain way. There's nothing wrong to be in a perfectionist. You want great. I'm trying to tell you, man.
Skido Ortiz:Right. Tomato, tomato. Tomato, tomato. I'm saying there's nothing wrong with it. What I'm saying is that's what drives people to be great.
Skido Ortiz:That's why they succeed.
DeShawn Snow:It has to be channeled.
Skido Ortiz:It has to be channeled. The balance is you have a team around you or people that's involved with you. They're not all like you.
DeShawn Snow:Right.
Skido Ortiz:So my thing is sometimes we gotta not come down. We just gotta understand how they move. You gotta put people in positions what they're good at, what you're good at.
DeShawn Snow:-Right.
Skido Ortiz:What you're good at is different from what they're good at. So I gotta adjust to the room. -Mm -Adjust
DeShawn Snow:to -And I can imagine that could be more freeing and easier.
Skido Ortiz:Oh, it's easy. Because, yo, it's like I'm such and I'm like that too. That's why I love because I'm not Hey, let's don't get it twisted. What she's doing, I'm the same way. Had to calm down because it would aggravate me, but it would be more with frustration than anger.
Skido Ortiz:Like, I had one of my client's fathers call me. I went the hell off, X-rayed into the camera. It was the wrong time. But he it was something innocent. But because he knows me, knows my heart.
Skido Ortiz:But I don't be caring about when I feel something is dumb or something that don't make sense. In my mind, I'm thinking it don't make sense. In their mind, it
DeShawn Snow:is. Right.
Skido Ortiz:So I have to start being so quick to be aggravated because and that's me. Me, because I'm doing the management thing, just one person, maybe two. I don't really I'm a boss. I don't want to be micromanaged or But because these clients are very professional, sometimes you don't even get it from them, you get it from the outside. The -But I need them to be on one accord to get their team together.
Skido Ortiz:Because if I'm doing business with you and you're locked in, everybody gotta be locked in. You can't leave people out because then that'll cause confusion. Right. And confusion is bad for business.
DeShawn Snow:And confusion is the trick of the enemy.
Skido Ortiz:Yes. Absolutely. So you know how that goes. And on that note, we are working on ourselves, and we are trying to better ourselves, and inviting everybody in our lives in this industry.
Kay Davis:Yeah.
Skido Ortiz:You know, we've been doing a lot. I love that. I'm still I'm still hype.
DeShawn Snow:So we have a lot more to talk I want to bring my baby sister on. So She
Skido Ortiz:is a trip.
DeShawn Snow:-: Shes doa firecracker. I
Skido Ortiz:saw it when we started talking, and I was like, She is something She's completely different, opposite of you.
DeShawn Snow:- eYes.
Skido Ortiz:But she's gonna be great.
DeShawn Snow:But we're alike in some ways.
Skido Ortiz:No, you're not. We look Y'all look, I have beautiful teeth. Y'all gonna see that. It make you think I my teeth, man. I got great teeth.
Skido Ortiz:I mean, I'm looking over there. I said, my shit need to be clean more. I'm like, it got too much shining going on. But on that note, I saw two different personalities, good heart. So y'all you know what I'm saying?
Skido Ortiz:Yeah. And it's funny. So but I like she come from knowing what's real and talks back. We come
DeShawn Snow:from the same place.
Skido Ortiz:I know, but y'all two different people. Right? And and I like the that she has her opinions about certain things that's going on. And I like to get those opinions so we could feed off it because there's a lot of things going on out there.
DeShawn Snow:Absolutely. She got her how do say ears to the street?
Skido Ortiz:She got her ears to the street, and I love it. We need that. Because we I'm flying, I'm doing things.
DeShawn Snow:But they keep me young and relevant.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah, but you look 30, 20 five, you know, you good. You know what saying?
DeShawn Snow:But I look it, but they, you know, keep me up on all the stuff.
Skido Ortiz:And you see? And now we get to share it, and we got our opinions because we wanna know what the people on the streets are saying.
Kay Davis:Okay.
Skido Ortiz:And we wanna know their opinion, but we got our opinion not to cut nobody down. That's just it is what it is.
DeShawn Snow:It is what it is. All right. So, we'll bring her out and just after this
Skido Ortiz:What's up? Yo, y'all
DeShawn Snow:did Hey, everybody. We're back. Two Steps Ahead podcast. And I have my baby sister here, Kay, in the Kay
Skido Ortiz:is in the building.
Kay Davis:What up, doe?
Skido Ortiz:What up, doe? Y'all heard that. That's that Detroit thing.
DeShawn Snow:It is.
Skido Ortiz:Am I right?
DeShawn Snow:That's Detroit. That's Detroit.
Skido Ortiz:I wanna make sure. What's up, Kay?
Kay Davis:Not Saginaw, not Flint, not Ann Arbor. It's Detroit.
Skido Ortiz:Is Detroit? It's Detroit. But you're Atlanta. So
DeShawn Snow:That part. But this one
Kay Davis:came My house is in Detroit. I was made
DeShawn Snow:I mean, I I was
Kay Davis:Oh, That's right.
Skido Ortiz:I like Detroit. I went I was under when they played Houston Texans and
DeShawn Snow:the Lions And
Skido Ortiz:I went out there, and there was more Detroit fans in the stadium than
Kay Davis:I was on a
Skido Ortiz:plane with them, and they started screaming. But I thought and I loved it. I just liked the vibe.
Kay Davis:We are different.
Skido Ortiz:Y'all unified like that? Why y'all unified like that?
Kay Davis:Just it's in us, not on us. I don't know.
Skido Ortiz:A word? What up, doe?
DeShawn Snow:I like that.
Skido Ortiz:You know I'm saying? New York, what up, though? Detroit, everybody in Atlanta, though. Go ahead.
Kay Davis:Don't do that.
Skido Ortiz:Don't do that. It's So what's up, Kay? What's going out there in the streets? What's going on? What you been up to?
Kay Davis:Nothing. Much. Just working.
Skido Ortiz:Just working.
DeShawn Snow:Thank you so. Karesia. Her name is Carisha. I call her everybody calls her Kay. I know her as
Kay Davis:Yes, I am the younger version of her. I say shit that she don't say, I say shit that she think Want to say. I say shit that she should say, because that is me. Now she is in this era, and I am still over here in this one.
Skido Ortiz:Which is good. Two different people. Two different same, same. I got it.
DeShawn Snow:Yeah. Mean, but we're out of the siblings, I think we're more alike in some aspects. Really? Yeah. Because we're more I mean, we're all
Skido Ortiz:I know y'all driven and business minded and y'all -Right. I know
DeShawn Snow:the real
Kay Davis:is one, but y'all talk about it.
DeShawn Snow:But, you know, like, we, you know, we fall down, we get right back up. We figure it out.
Skido Ortiz:-Sold up.
DeShawn Snow:-Yeah. -We figure it out.
Skido Ortiz:Okay, what you thinking? I mean, without her what you thinking about this whole situation, 10 steps ahead, the show, your sister making moves? I know you making moves, ears to the street. What you think about all this?
Kay Davis:I mean, I'm proud of y'all. I really am. I'm really proud of my sister for, you know, coming out her shell, so to speak. Now, this podcast is something different, you know? So I'm just excited to see where y'all go with it.
Kay Davis:But as long as she keep it a hundred when she's talking on the show, I think everybody will love it.
Skido Ortiz:Well, the hundred's gonna be
DeShawn Snow:All I know is keep it 100.
Kay Davis:You know 50 plus fifty, twenty five
DeShawn Snow:plus 50. I see this right. 75 plus 25, it still comes to a hundred.
Kay Davis:Don't even that's not the same, though. Solid is solid. You can't break that shit.
DeShawn Snow:I'm It is what
Kay Davis:it is. And you are. Yes. You are. But sometimes other people that don't know you don't know that, though.
Kay Davis:Because it could be the delivery or what you're
Skido Ortiz:And this is why I wanted Kay on this show with DeShawn. Because I seen this shit live, so what I saw was a hit. See, I need different personalities. I got one. Deshaun got one.
Skido Ortiz:Kay got one. It ain't got nothing to do with her being her sister. She's really out there. She's on it. She talks shit.
Skido Ortiz:She does all that. But we're gonna keep it so real on this show. I thought it was a good add on to it. You know, it's about coming together, having different personalities, different opinions. And that's why I liked it.
Skido Ortiz:Said, Yo, gotta get K on this You know, not always y'all go at it. That's the sister thing. They love each other. You know how brothers and sisters and everybody be. But this is real business out here.
Skido Ortiz:They really doing things out here, and I'm excited to have you. But you gotta tell me what's been I wanna talk about I'll out in the air traveling. What's going on out here? What's going on in the streets?
DeShawn Snow:What's the big topic that everybody As a young single I mean, younger. You're still a grown woman, but
Kay Davis:I'm 40, nigga.
DeShawn Snow:Okay, 40.
Skido Ortiz:As a younger woman What's happened here is I asked Kay the question, and and Deshaun's trying to answer.
DeShawn Snow:Oh, I'm sorry.
Skido Ortiz:I'm not and this is her. This is we're being live here. This is her
DeShawn Snow:I was
Skido Ortiz:trying to say, sorry. Work on herself and not being a perfectionist. I this show is gonna you gonna get it raw here. We're not pity patting her. And she's still working on herself on live, but we love y'all.
Skido Ortiz:I'm a ask it again. K, what is going on out there in these streets? What's happening?
Kay Davis:You know what? It's a lot that is going on. Entertainment wise, I'm not really sure, but I'll find out for you. I mean, I know the whole situation with bees and MO3 and
Skido Ortiz:Oh, I heard about that. Yeah. I mean, this is MOB, MO2, they're bringing up, there's a case going on, and something happened.
Kay Davis:And Dallas, he was just smarter with his beef. Allegedly, he got someone else to do the killing. Okay. MO three was, I guess, allegedly being reckless in Dallas, and then he ended up killing, allegedly, unaliving one of his friends. And that's what made Beezy retaliate, supposedly.
Skido Ortiz:That's the thing that's going on now.
Kay Davis:Yes, but allegedly,
Skido Ortiz:he's not gonna Everything is allegedly.
Kay Davis:Because I don't know him.
Skido Ortiz:Don't him. Know. We just give him what the news given us. -Mm we just that's what you know, something happened with a certain rapper out here that allegedly did something to another -Oh,
DeShawn Snow:got a junk on fence?
Skido Ortiz:-And then little scoop -Mm know? -To step the fence. -What? He
DeShawn Snow:died because he hurt something in his leg from jumping the fence.
Kay Davis:-Oh, no. Yeah, on scooter, he got shot. -No. -No, allegedly.
DeShawn Snow:-No, they said it wasn't they said it was the injury.
Skido Ortiz:They said he
DeShawn Snow:had gone. -It wasn't no shot.
Skido Ortiz:Bled out.
Kay Davis:And just
Skido Ortiz:bled bled out. Been sent to That they thought after first he got shot. I mean, is just the news. But they
DeShawn Snow:But they cleared it up, the they cleared
Skido Ortiz:it He First, we thought he got shot. And we're talking about little
Kay Davis:Young Scooter.
Skido Ortiz:Young Scooter. Scooter. They're from Atlanta here.
Kay Davis:They showing an age. It's okay.
Skido Ortiz:He passed and they thought he got shot and they came back with the news to say that he tore something.
Kay Davis:In his, I think his femoral Yeah.
Skido Ortiz:And it bled out.
Kay Davis:And that's
Skido Ortiz:what led to that. But it's just the fact that, first of all, he was running. We didn't know what was going on and why you had to run or what was going on in that house.
Kay Davis:So, it was a lady that is going around social media. She was a contestant on Baddies. I don't know which state, maybe Atlanta, I'm not sure. And she had called the police and made a false police report stating that there were allegedly making a false police report stating that there were trafficking and drugs and things of that nature going on in that home because she was supposedly dating one of Young Scooter's homeboys, and they were having a party, and they would not invite her. So this was an act of her, like, retaliating, but, allegedly, she was unaware that young Scooter was in the house because this was on his birthday.
Kay Davis:That's what it was. So they were trying to put the party together, and apparently she couldn't beat her. However it was, and she came up with this idea to say that it was a woman that was being beaten or something of that Yeah. And it was and then when they came, it was no woman in trouble or distress.
Skido Ortiz:So basically, what you're saying
Kay Davis:is forced pour
Skido Ortiz:over somebody that wasn't invited Mhmm. Which people do, and y'all make these things. And cause of that Mhmm. Being, being a lie and everything caused somebody to lose their And that's why y'all play games with people out here. That's And now you
Kay Davis:on the net, feigning for yours and trying to get forgiveness for what you did. But you don't, like, generation,
DeShawn Snow:you don't think about that.
Skido Ortiz:Do you get arrested for things like that?
DeShawn Snow:They never heard of her. Fossil report. Man,
Kay Davis:love this They knew her face. Think they had to find out who she was first. Nah, I'm not
DeShawn Snow:sure She found out because she went on Instagram Live talking about it.
Kay Davis:So she did get arrested. I'm not sure at
DeShawn Snow:all. Yeah. It's just the My sources. TMZ.
Kay Davis:Oh, great. Great.
DeShawn Snow:Shade room.
Skido Ortiz:Shade But on that, we was able to lose we lost a life. Right. And because of you playing games, making false calls, calling police, just because of how you feel or what you you know, you gotta be careful out there doing that, man.
Kay Davis:People move in emotions, though. Yes. That's the reason why. Because and I think that, logically, when you got emotions because an emotion can like, they change, they flip up, you know what I mean? Like, so I think she did that emotionally because she was upset, but it's like you don't think about the consequences after the fact.
Skido Ortiz:Always consequences to everything you do in emotion. You gotta think before you act. And I get angry and I get upset. But on that note, man, you know, we lost a life there. You know, God bless his family, you know, his kids.
Skido Ortiz:You can't bring it back. So once y'all do something out there, there's no apology because you can't bring them back. So basically check yourself before you make any movements because you can hurt or kill somebody and get somebody hurt or killed, whatever force things you're putting out there. And this is and I'm a give you, I'll keep it at 100. A situation had just occurred where That's why I flipped in the airport because there was a something that somebody thought something.
Skido Ortiz:Instead of going to the source or finding out, they were able to go around my back, but it ended up coming back around to me because I was it could have been like a wildfire. But was able God was able to have me in great relationships to bring it back to me, but it could have got worse. And what you don't know, what you wanna know, what you're trying to find out, you need to go to the source. Right. Don't assume things, don't judge, don't think that, Yo, I need to go on my own instincts because it could cause a disaster.
Skido Ortiz:Right. Definitely. I wasn't worried about what they did because it wasn't on me. I was worried about how they did it. And I didn't like it.
Skido Ortiz:You know what I'm saying? And it could have caught I have to do good business. And nobody wants to do bad business. Nobody wants to be around all these type of things that make you look bad. You know what I'm saying?
Kay Davis:But But that's key, though. It's not what you do, it's how you
Skido Ortiz:do it. It's how
Kay Davis:you do it. Right? It's not what you say, it's how you say
Skido Ortiz:it. Absolutely.
Kay Davis:It's always the delivery because that's how I'm a pick it up. You know what
Skido Ortiz:I mean?
Kay Davis:So we can go about it however you wanna go about it, but it always comes from
Skido Ortiz:your head. Why I always feel when I'm talking to Kay, she ready to get busy? Is a show. She's she wanna be on bucket. She got that you know, I'm telling you right now, we're
Kay Davis:gonna so calm. She cool.
Skido Ortiz:But I know she she you know, these these shows are gonna get more and more. You're gonna see more and more Kay. Look, that this is the cool version because it's the first episode. I'm trying to laugh. When she get really loose, it's about to be crazy.
Skido Ortiz:Because I seen it. You know what I'm saying? But on that note, man, I'm glad you part of the show.
Kay Davis:Thank you.
Skido Ortiz:Thank I'm glad you're gonna be bringing stuff. She's gonna be bringing stuff from the streets, ears to the street.
Kay Davis:I am.
Skido Ortiz:Bringing up episodes that we don't even know. Like, in her opinion, just gonna feel
DeShawn Snow:off the And she's gonna do the knock it off part.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah. It's the knock because I don't know if a lot of stuff go don't pay attention to a lot of things. You know what saying?
DeShawn Snow:Yeah. Sometimes people be, like, fronting. And she be like, knock it off.
Skido Ortiz:I know she gave them that look.
Kay Davis:Yes. Yeah.
DeShawn Snow:Right? Is that how you say it?
Kay Davis:Yeah, like, I tell you.
Skido Ortiz:She's on the block.
Kay Davis:She's in.
DeShawn Snow:I don't front, though. Yeah, you do.
Skido Ortiz:You see this?
Kay Davis:No. You're good. I'm good.
Skido Ortiz:On the block. She know where it's going. She's like, what? What do you mean?
Kay Davis:It'll be everything. What do you
Skido Ortiz:mean checking? What does checking mean?
Kay Davis:It's not just anything.
Skido Ortiz:Now you know what checking
Kay Davis:means in that It'll be everything going on with the streets. I don't think it's just entertainment. I think it's just, like, people everyday lives. Like, I feel like even the stuff that you've been through, even though you had a camera in your face, there's the same girl named Janeshia, Shaquita, they all, they going through it on the block, you Like, so I think the aspect of what I would bring to the show is kinda to humble that, like, because you'll be caught, you
DeShawn Snow:Humble by me.
Kay Davis:Like, like, the reality, like, the way you you say it. Like, what was he talking about, about red flags, and you know how you say something different?
DeShawn Snow:No, said rose colored glasses.
Kay Davis:Right, but guess what I said? You pull out that Crayola box and get the coloring shit. It's the same thing, just in a different kind of
DeShawn Snow:Like, you paint the picture that you wanna see. You
Skido Ortiz:know what? I noticed something I love. This is why I told you this is tough. Because it's every there's people a lot like me and a lot like Kay and a lot like Deshaun. It doesn't mean we we see things different.
Skido Ortiz:We word things different. It's just life. Yeah. We're not we just keep we real with it. But bringing all these things together, you know, it's a balance that y'all need to hit.
Skido Ortiz:So and it's gonna educate everybody.
Kay Davis:All same all got the same agenda. Yep. Just somebody to pick it up.
DeShawn Snow:Okay. That's it.
Skido Ortiz:That's what's up. See, the teeth, I can't deal with this shit. I was like, yo, I'm not trying to go get my teeth whited. I got all my teeth. My teeth are straight.
Skido Ortiz:Good.
Kay Davis:You do.
Skido Ortiz:I love it. You know what saying? I was telling Kate, but Kate, she's like, Yeah, smile. I was like, You drink tea? I drink tea.
Skido Ortiz:Yeah. I love tea. But it
Kay Davis:has a color to it, so
Skido Ortiz:And you're right because it's the ring around it because you think coffee does it. I didn't know that. And now, you know, you put me on, but I'm still gonna tea lighter.
Kay Davis:I know you are.
Skido Ortiz:You know what saying? There's no other tea
Kay Davis:to tea. And drink it through a straw. Because I have to tell people when they get their veneers, like,
Skido Ortiz:drink through Drinking it a straw is better.
Kay Davis:Aw, cool.
Skido Ortiz:I'm a take that advice on that.
DeShawn Snow:Okay. There we have it. Yeah.
Skido Ortiz:I love it.
DeShawn Snow:So we'll wrap this up for today. But I'm looking forward to getting a fresh perspective and keeping it real.
Skido Ortiz:No, that's
DeShawn Snow:that's her version. Is Keep
Kay Davis:it a hundred. Nah.
DeShawn Snow:Keep it a hundred.
Skido Ortiz:You said keeping it a hundred.
Kay Davis:There's no air quotes to it, honey.
DeShawn Snow:Keep it a hundred.
Kay Davis:That's what it's right.
Skido Ortiz:This is what I'm telling you. All we get here, get all concepts. I love it. This is hype. Keeping it real.
DeShawn Snow:So thanks for tuning in, and we'll see you on the next episode of 10 Steps Ahead podcast. Let it lie.
Skido Ortiz:Gonna be with us,
DeShawn Snow:chilling too.
Skido Ortiz:We're the building. Let's go.
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